Write a 4-6 sentence paragraph answering the above questions. Use specific details from the book to support your answer. Cite your book correctly.
Write two quality 2-3 sentence comments on two students from another school. Remember quality comments have specific details, do not just restate what the person already said, and challenge the student to think about their ideas on a deeper level or in a new perspective.
Proofread your work prior to submitting your responses.
I think it really depends on the activity that is going on. In the case of the book Night some were some were not. I am sure the Nazis that agreed with the mass genocide were just as guilty as Hitler himself. I think the term guilty by association fits with this circumstance. On the other hand the Jew that were forced to do this are not as guilty. If they refused they probably would have been killed along with the person they did not want to kill.
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DeleteThis is very true. Some of the Nazis probably didn't agree with what Hitler was forcing them to do. I think if they tried to speak up against him the majority would have looked down upon them. They would have probably been killed if they took a stand.
DeleteI completely agree with you, if the Jews tried to stand up for themselves they would've been penalized. Hitler had a lot of power and some Jews would listen to him, and follow his commands no matter what. However many Jews would disagree with his ways of ruling, but wouldn't stand up because they were terrified of him.
DeleteI completely agree with you. If someone didn't agree with what Hitler wanted, that person probably would have been singled out, punished, or even killed because of what they thought was right.
DeleteI agree with your statement because unless you are given a specific example you are unable to feel a certain emotion. I understand your perspective. I think you hit the mark.
DeletePeople who associate with the criminals are not just as guilty. If someone is friends with people who just robbed a drug store but he didn't know doesn't make him guilty. The bystander didn't actually do the crime. Although, they could still be guilty of doing nothing. In the book Night, the Hungarian government is guilty of letting the Nazis in but not as guilty as the Nazis themselves (Wiesel 9).
ReplyDeleteThose are all very good reasons, but people who know something and are keeping the secret are a accessory to whatever crime the person being prosecuted is charged for. This happened to the Penn State head coach he didn't do anything to people, but he kept the secret of Jerry Sandusky. He was charged with the same amount of guilt as Joe Paterno.
DeleteIn my opinion sometimes the people who associate with criminals are just as guilty in some cases, because the people who supported the Nazis were supporting the deaths of millions people.
DeleteBut I agree with you about the Hungarian Police.
I agree with what what you said because if you are a friends with a criminal you shouldn't be considered guilty. Just because you associate yourself with that person that doesn't make you guilty of committing a crime.
DeleteI believe the word "associating" means helping out the criminal. In Night, the Nazis helped Hitler kidnap the Jewish people. Because they helped Hitler commit his crime, they only made the crime stronger, making those Nazis just as bas as Hitler.
DeleteI agree because not everyone the associates with criminals are guilty. I also agree with your example.
DeleteI partially agree with you. But I do believe, that if somebody knew their friend would rob a store and did not tell the Police, they should be guilty for knowing something is going to happen. Otherwise I do agree with you that a bystander should not get punished unlike the person who committed the crime.
DeleteI agree with your comment Brian. I also agree with Spenser and Cara's comments above. Some people could be associating themselves with criminals and they don't even know it. In my opinion though I think that if someone knows that someone is committing the crime, they are not guilty for the crime legally, but they might have guilt with themselves for not saying anything and not making an effort to stop the situation.
DeleteYes, I believe they are just as guilty as the criminal committing the crime. Since they are associated with crime in the first place, that means that they were hanging around them, maybe giving them help or suggestions etc..
ReplyDeleteClearly, those who commit the crime would probably have a harsher punishment then ones who were associated with the crime.
What if the person helping the criminal was forced to aid them? I agree that any person willingly helping a criminal should be punished, but if that person was forced to lend resources, then they shouldn't be punished.
DeleteYes I agree. People who get involved may not be quit as guilty as the person who committed the crime. In the book "Night," the Nazis appealed to be guilty when they were working for the criminal, Hitler. They get themselves involved in something the really didn't have to get involved in.
DeleteI think that you are correct but at the same time wrong. In not all cases would somebody know that they are committing a crime. You could be giving information to the person committing the crime but if you don't know what they intend to do with it then that doesn't make you responsible.
DeleteI believe it depends on to what extent that the person has helped them. Also, if the person helped them knew about it. Many times there are people convicted for doing a crime by helping a friend, and the person did not know that thier friend commited a crime. If a person knowingly helps someone commit a crime, then they should be brought to justice.
ReplyDeleteI definitely agree. The question of whether someone is guilty by association depends on the circumstances. It is completely unacceptable to convict someone of aiding in a crime they didn't realize was being committed.
DeleteI totally agree. I consider someone guilty because it was their fault for their wrong decisions, like involving themselves with a criminal. In the book "Night," the Nazis had a choice to work under Hitler's commands.
DeleteI believe that a person who associates with criminals are just as guilty as those who do the crime. If someone helps or assists the criminal to commit a crime, they are just as guilty. If they do not know what they are doing, or that they are helping a criminal, than they are innocent because of their ignorance. It is the persons fault for associating with the criminal, even if they do not do anything.
ReplyDeleteAddison, I think you are mostly right. I think that if you help a criminal in any way to commit a crime, unless forced to, you are guilty. If you are helping you have to know what you are doing is wrong unless mentally handicapped in some way.
DeletePeople who associate with criminals are not as guilty as the criminals themselves. However, in the eyes of the public, people who are associating with criminals are just as guilty as criminals. That person would not have done the bad things a criminal has done, but people do not know that. This is a real life example is: A boy in the Middle East was found. His brothers joined ISIS. He let them go and told no one. Is he guilty of being with ISIS? I would say he is not as guilty.
ReplyDeleteI somewhat agree with you. I agree where you said how "people who are associating with criminals are just as guilty as criminals." I would have to disagree on the part where you said "people who associate with criminals are not as guilty as the criminals themselves." I disagree with you since the other person who is helping create a crime is part of it or in on it and they should have consequences just not as big of consequences.
DeleteI understand your perspective on this topic. I feel the same way off of this given question. I feel your perspective fits in with the book Night, as well as the Holocaust.
DeleteI believe that the guiltiness of someone depends on their knowledge of what the criminal is doing. If they have no idea the horrible things that the criminal is doing, they are innocent. However, if someone knows what the criminal is doing and chooses to ignore it or take part in it, they are just as guilty. For example, the somewhat nice man who was a general in the concentration camp is just as guilty as the cruel generals because he knows what is happening and chooses to take part in it, no matter how nice he is.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you because if they honestly didn't know what the criminal was going to do they are innocent. I think that your right about if they choose to take part in what the criminal is doing they are just as guilty as the criminal.
DeleteI do agree with what you said, but I would make some changes to the second part of your writing. Nazi officers didn’t really have a choice to work at the camps. They had to be a part of the military, so he was trying to show some kindness. When you wrote about if someone knew they knew that the criminal was committing a crime is great! The way you answered it was worded really well.
DeleteIn my opinion, this statement is agreeable because not all people who are involved with a criminal understand how severe the crimes the criminal is intending to commit are. The nice man is a good example because although he is nice, he still plays a role in hurting others.
DeleteIn my opinion, this statement is agreeable because not all people who are involved with a criminal understand how severe the crimes the criminal is intending to commit are. The nice man is a good example because although he is nice, he still plays a role in hurting others.
DeleteYou did a really nice job elaborating. It was nice how you gave examples, and gave specific examples from the book.
DeleteI believe that anybody who is or associates themselves with a crime is guilty. The prime example of this happening in the book is when the Hungarian police let the Germans into the city. Although they didn't kill all the Jews like the Germans did, they were still responsible for protecting them. Rather then helping the Jews against the Germans, they just let them walk right on in.
ReplyDeleteYou did really will on explaining where you got the information in the book. You also did really well on talking about the Jews and German.
DeleteI see where your going with this! However, many people have aided criminals because they were blackmailed by them. It doesn't mean the people helped the criminals with their consent.
DeleteI think that's a good point, but is it really the Hungarian police's fault for letting the Nazis into the city if their life was in danger. Of course it would be their fault if they weren't in danger, and they just let it happen, but who's to say the Nazis didn't threaten their family or hold a gun up to their heads until the police agreed to let them in.
DeleteI believe that there are times where it is a crime to associate yourself with a criminal and it would be considered a crime, and times where it would be considered humane. Sometimes, it is a crime to take a prisoner, or a fugitive of the law, and nurse him back to health. That would be considered humane. But afterward, hiding him would be considered a crime. The right action to take would be to nurse him back to health, and then turn him into the law. It would be humane, and technically legal. The only time it is bad, and even illegal to associate yourself with a criminal is when you help them with a crime. A couple of examples from the book include when someone is being beaten, if you start beating him too, you would be considered inhumane, and slightly evil. If you helped someone who was being beaten, even if it was against the rules, it would be considered humane. Whether a crime is criminal activity, or more humane, is how you decide whether it okay to associate yourself with a criminal.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with what you stated here because it depends on what you were doing to associate yourself with the criminal. If you were helping him commit the crime then you would be considered guilty. But on the other hand if you were only helping them with their health then you shouldn't be considered guilty. You were only there to help them get better and once you did that you turn them in.
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Yes, I believe that the people that helped the Nazis kill the Jews are guilty by association. The people that were passed by the processions of Jews and did not try to help them are guilty by association, because if they wanted to, they would've tired to help. All of the people that helped the concentration camps to run smoothly or to physically kill the Jews are all guilty of genocide in one way or another.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, but we don't know if all of the people that helped the Nazis kill the people actually want to kill them.
DeleteI understand what you are saying but I think that some of the Nazis didn't agree with Hitler and had no hate towards jews, but were forced by the leaders of their government to have a membership in the association. They knew that if they would take a stance against Hitler and his beliefs, then they would probably be punished themselves. Therefore, I think that the leader of a group that makes other people do the hard work is the most guilty person. But I agree with you on the point that if some of the Germans would really think that Hitler was wrong, then they would not have voted on him.
DeleteI think that the person that is associating themselves with criminals are just as guilty as those who commit the crime. I think that they are as guilty because they put themselves in a position in which they can get in trouble, and they also help the criminal that does the crime and puts himself/herself in a bad position. I think that people that put themselves in that position should be punished for surrounding themselves and getting involved in a crime. The person know it is the wrong thing to do, so why get yourself into trouble? Some people that accosiate themselves with criminals have an excuse like "I didn't commit the crime so why should I be in trouble?" Well, think about what the person is saying. They are saying i never did the crime, but as a matter of fact they did in a way. They associated themselves with a criminal that did something wrong, so they should also pay the price.
ReplyDeleteWhile I agree with you, but what about the cases when those people are unaware of what is actually going on. Also, what about the times when the crime is for the greater good. For example, in the Diary of Anne Frank, the employees of the building they were hiding in were in on the "crime", but it was to help the Franks, not to hurt anyone.
DeleteI think that people that are associated with the person that commits a crime is not guilty. I think this because if they did not even commit the crime, what are they guilty for? Maybe all they did was give advice, that does not make them responsible for the crime. Like when Elie did not do anything about the guard hitting his father, that does not make him a bad person, he was just afraid.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the first part of the paragraph, but I disagree with the second. I agree that people who did not commit a crime are not guilty, but only if they didn’t know. If they had told them advice, then I think that they would be a little guilty for not telling. Elie didn’t fight back because he was so tired, and didn’t want to start a fight.
DeleteI feel the contrary of what you are saying. I feel that if you help someone you are as guilty as they are. There is a law that states this.
DeleteI completely agree but I also somewhat disagree. Yes, there are times where the person associated with the crime does not do anything, but maybe the person associated with crime is morally choosing to help commit the crime. It really depends on the situation. What makes a person guilty is how they feel morally about committing the crime, and not the actions that are actually taken. The actions that are taken are interfered by many factors, such as being threatened. If a person is threatened, than no, they are not guilty because they did not want to commit the crime morally. Although, if there is no factors interfering, and the person chooses to help commit the crime, than yes, they are easily just as guilty. Morals have no factors that can interfere, so it really depends on how the person really wants to deal with the crime taking place.
DeleteI understand why you feel this way! However, a person could supply the gun that's used in a murder. It doesn't mean that the person killed someone, but it does mean that they helped the crime become perpetrated deliberately.
DeleteI think those are very good points, but If someone helps someone in anyway commit a murder then they are an accessory to a murder. That will also go for giving advice.
DeleteYes they are as guilty. The people who associate with criminals are actually helping the criminals. They are committing the crime with the criminal but not getting caught. In the concentration camp, people who work at them but they don't hurt the Jews in any way are still guilty. They are helping the people committing the crime but not doing anything else. Its the same as robbing a bank. If someone knows about it and doesn't say or do anything that person not talking is guilty. Situations like that are when the person is guilty for not talking about it and helping.
ReplyDeleteI agree, but I also think that there are other situations where the person is not guilty. There are people that are forced into committing crimes because they are threatened by a greater force. An example is peer pressure. Let's say a group of friends wants to go rob some local store for fun, and tells you to come along. Morally, you do not want to do it because you know it is a crime, yet you feel forced to do it because the consequences of not robbing the store can be grave. You could lose that group of friends or be bullied. This is one of the many situations where committing a crime is forced because it seems like the best and safest option.
DeleteI think that anybody who associates themselves with the criminal is not as guilty as those who commit the crime. It also depends on the crime and the situation and there involvement. If a criminal is given a weapon by a store and the criminal uses the weapon for bad I think this makes them guilty. They knew they were giving a weapon to a criminal that most likely would not do anything good with it, in this case I believe that criminal is in fact guilty. In the book there are SS officers who are watching over the prisoners, if the workers at the crematorium are burning people the SS officers had no involvement. They are still associated with the killers therefore they are guilty. In most circumstances yes people who are associated with criminals are not as guilty as the offender but they still are guilty.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you because it is true about the crematorium and the SS officers. Also you made great points with using the book. I also think you did a good job relating it to the store about how it would give the criminal the weapon.
DeleteI think that everyone that is participating in the crime is responsible for the outcome. They are guilty because they chose to participate in the crime. For example: 911, everyone who participated in the crime like planning it out and actually driving the plane is equally guilty. Or like in the book "night" every SS officer that is taking place in the concentration camp is equally guilty. Of course some more guilty than others like the ones forced to be an officer and the higher ranked officers that chose with an open heart.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you. I feel the same way; that everyone participating in the crime is just as responsible as the person actually committing the crime. Just because they do't actively do something; they are still doing something by just watching.
DeleteI agree with you on some parts. I agree with you on your reference to 9/11 and also night. But I don't agree with you when you say everyone in the crime is responsible, because some people can be apart of the crime but that doesn't automatically mean they're guilty.
DeleteI agree with what you said. Everyone who helped commit a crime is responsible, but some people didn’t help commit a crime. I think that they are innocent. I really liked how you connected this with 9/11. I also liked the part about how all of the SS officers are responsible just as every other SS officer, regardless if they are nice or not.
DeleteI all depends on the current situation. Like in the book when Elie's father was struck down by the guard if he would have helped his dad they would have been in more trouble. If you know some one is going to kill some one and they need a gun, you have a gun and you give it to him. The man shots and kills a man you are just as responsible as the man who shot the other person. If you provide something bad to do some thing bad and someone else does the bad thing you would still be in trouble. if you don't stop or try to stop the crime you are just as guilty.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with what you said. If someone contributes to a crime they are responsible too, even though they didn’t commit it. I think that if you didn’t know about the crime, then you are innocent. I liked how you talked about Elie and his dad getting hit at the concentration camp. This is a great answer!
DeleteI think it all determines on the circumstance. If you see someone commit a crime, but don't report it, you can be just as guilty as the person who committed it. If it is a situation as shown in the book, when Eliezer sees his dad get slapped, I wouldn't do anything about it because of what could happen to me and my dad. It all depends.
ReplyDeletePeople who associate with criminals are just as guilty to those who commit the crime in almost all cases. If the person helping the criminal is forced to do so or to be killed, then it is okay. It is also okay to do this if the person helping the criminal does not know that the intention is wrong. If somebody's intention is wrong and helps the criminal do this illegal action, then the helper is just as guilty as the criminal. In Night, I believe that all of the guards who contributed to Hitler's actions even just a little bit are all just as guilty as Hitler himself, just did not hold the leadership that Hitler did. In my opinion, almost all contribution to criminal actions are wrong unless they are protecting themselves or do not have a bad intention.
ReplyDeleteYes, I think that if you associate yourself with criminals you do become one, and are just as guilty. When you know someone is doing something wrong, but you do not report them and you just watch it happen, you are still guilty. By not stopping the wrongdoing you are essentially agreeing with whatever it is they are doing. In the book, I thought it was smart for Elie to not involve himself, but also watching something that is not morally right happen I feel is not standing up for himself enough. I understand that in life threatening situations it is dangerous, but you if you know someone is doing something wrong, why wouldn't you say something about it? Additionally, you can get arrested for withholding information from the police. It is a serious crime to not tell, and it's just as bad as doing the crime yourself.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who associates them self with someone who is committing the crime, is just as guilty. I think this because someone who is helping the criminal might just not have the courage (bad courage) to do it themselves. In Night though, it is almost like the same thing. Hitler is just as guilty as the SS for killing the Jews because he is the one in charge of this whole system that is happening.
ReplyDeleteI love what you said except for your last analogy in the end. Hitler did't associate himself with criminals, like the question mentions. He is in charge. Someone who associates themselves with them is more like a German citizen who says that he is a Nazi, but doesn't partake in the action of the crime like Hitler did.
DeletePeople who help commit the crime are just as guilty as the people who do it. You are one of the people who help the crime get executed. If you do not really want the crime, then you should not even help. If you are forced into the position, then it is a different situation. If your life is at stake, I feel that it would be fine to help the criminal. Overall, associating and helping criminals is the wrong thing to do and you would be considered as a criminal.
ReplyDeleteArjun, what if you associated with the criminal just by talking to them every once in a while? You would have no way of knowing that they were doing illegal things. I would think that you would not be guilty if you knew the criminal, but did not know what bad things they were doing.
DeleteYes, I believe that anyone associating themselves with criminals are just as guilty as those who commit the crimes. When you know that someone is doing something wrong, you need to tell someone. When you know about what is going on and decide to help them, then you are supporting the crime, and you are also guilty. If something bad happens that you knew about, and you did nothing to stop it, it is also your fault that it happened because you could have kept it from happening.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the person that is associating themselves with criminals are absolutely just as guilty as those who commit the crime. I think that when you know something is doing something wrong and you know about but choose not do anything about it you are then just as guilty as the person committing the crime . For example if your brother is planning on killing someone tomorrow and he tells you and you stay quiet while he takes someones life then you are just as guilty as your brother. They chose to stay quiet while someone was murdering another person, therefore they are doing just as much as the person committing the crime. When you associate yourself with a criminal you are just as guilty as the criminal.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you because it is true, people that choose not to say anything when they know something is going down are just as guilty. I also like how you gave an excellent example with a brother telling you they are going to murder someone.
DeleteYes, people who associate with criminals are just as guilty as those who commit the crime. I think this is true because if you know about the crime you should do something to stop it, not just let it happen. I also think that if you did something to help with the crime that would make you guilty. If someone is watching the crime I would also think it makes them guilty if they didn’t do anything to help. If you see someone getting bullied you should tell them to stop or get someone to help you like a teacher. If anything bad happens and you knew or you were there,you would be guilty. I do not think there would be any reason why you wouldn’t be guilty.
ReplyDeleteI believe that people who associate with criminals are just as guilty as the criminals themselves. If someone tells you they are going to trash someone's car, and you don't tell that person, you are just as guilty because you could have stopped the person from trashing the car. Or, you could have told the person who's car was going to be wrecked so that person could have done something about it. If you are involved in the crime you can be charged, or punished as severely as the person committing the crime.
ReplyDeleteEverything in this post is spot on with my beliefs! Have you considered what would happen if the person is associated with a criminal but didn't know it? Do you think that they should be charged with a crime too?
DeleteI think that people who associate with criminals are just as guilty as the criminals. When you know that something is wrong, you should speak up and contact the police to stop the criminals. Associates who do not contact anyone, and keep the problem to themselves should be thrown in jail with the criminals. It is not right to stay quiet if its a crime, speak up.
ReplyDeletePeople who associate with criminals are just as guilty as those who commit a crime. Even if you didn't commit the crime you are still associated with something you know is wrong. If you know something is wrong and still help with it you are just as guilty as the person in charge. For example in the book the pole who is speaking nicely is still guilty because although he is being nice he is still forcing people to go to a concentration camp. If you know about something that is wrong and still go along with it you are just as guilty as the person who started it.
ReplyDeleteI believe that those who associate with the criminals are definitely as guilty at those who lead the cause. They are making sure that the leaders plan is carried out. Without those who associate, the plan would not be carried out. Therefore, they are definitely as guilty as the leaders of the cause.
ReplyDeleteI can see your point of view, but what if the associate doesn't know he/she is helping with the crime? For instance, say a friend let another friend use his car to drive around, but instead he robbed a gas station, would the person who provided the car unknowingly be as guilty or not?
DeleteYou did well on saying why they are guilty you just have to add more and say where you got it in the story. You did well on talking about the leaders.
DeleteI believe that anyone who has been an accomplice to a criminal is just as guilty as the criminal himself. They have the same intention as the criminal himself so they deserve the same punishment. In this case, the SS officers are mostly brainwashed by Hitler's motives. It is not necessarily their fault, they were tricked. If an SS officer had the same thought process as Hitler from the beginning, then they are just as much of a criminal as him.
ReplyDeleteI think that you are very correct about the last part about the brainwashed SS Officers, but I would like to respectfully differ slightly in opinions with the first part. If someone is an accomplice to a criminal, and didn't really do anything wrong, than they should only be a little bit guilty because although they may have known about the crime, they didn't do it.
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ReplyDeleteI think that people who are associated with criminals can be guilty or innocent depending on the situation. Like in the book some of the people are nice, like the Pole, that were probably forced into all of this. There are still some guilty people who are doing this on their own will. If someone tells you that someone is going to commit a crime and you do not say anything you will be guilty. If you do speak up about it you will be innocent.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you. Most people are saying that a person that is associated with a criminal is a criminal and don't believe that. I believe that it always depends on the situation. If a person knows a criminal but doesn't know that that person is indeed a criminal they are not considered a criminal themselves. But if someone is associated with a criminal but is helping them achieve their goals the they are also a criminal.
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I also agree that it depends on the situation. Lots of people would say that they are guilty for being their friend, and knowing about it and not speaking up. They would also be innocent if they speak up and tell someone, like what you said.
DeleteI somewhat agree with your Martina, if the person does not know that their friend/ person they know is doing something illegal, they are not guilty. However, I think that if someone knows what the other person is doing, but does not help them, if they don't turn the other person in they are just as guilty.
DeletePeople who associate with a crime are not as guilty as the person committing the crime. The associate is not doing the whole thing or is not the mastermind behind it. In the story, Night, the SS officers are not as guilty as Hitler himself. He is the one ordering these people to treat the Jews this way. Of course the SS officers are guilty but not as much as Hitler. They are just following orders.
ReplyDeleteI believe that some people who associate with crime are just as guilty as those who commits the crime. In other situations those who associate with the person commits the crime is not guilty like the person who commits the crime. In the book Night, the SS officers that are beating the Jews are just as guilty as Hitler who gave them the orders to be mean to the Jews. Another example of when you would be guilty by association is if someone told you that they were going to a rob a store and you do not do anything to stop them you are considered guilty by association since you could of stopped them and you did not. Although there are people who associate with criminals they are not as guilty as the ones who commit the crimes themselves. If someone you know kills someone but they never told you about it you are not guilty. Those are some examples of when you could be guilty by association or not guilty at all who associate with criminals.
ReplyDeleteI think that people that associate themselves with criminals. Who are weapon dealers or drug dealers deserve a different punishment. But if they are people who helped the criminal with the crime deserve the same crime. These are my beliefs.
ReplyDeleteI personally think that it all depends on the crime, and if you are associated by your own free will. What I mean by that, is that if you are associated, and almost forced to be a part of the crime, I don't think that you are as guilty. Like if you know that something bad is going on, and if you know that if you say something that you are in a strong chance to get hurt, then I personally don't think that you are as guilty. However, if you know something bad is happening, and there is something you can do, or someone you can tell that can do something, then I think that they are just as guilty as the criminals doing the crime. For example, the people that were watching the people from the concentration camps, such as the German girls, there wasn't really anything that they could do, so I personally don't think that they are just as guilty. I am one to stand up for what you believe in, but when there was as much danger as there was back then, I don't blame a lot of those people for not saying anything right away. Especially because they knew they were putting themselves, and other people in danger.
ReplyDeleteI also believe that it depends on the circumstances. I really liked how you gave an excellent example from the book about the German girl. And yes if you know that there is something bad going on but if you act upon it you are going to get hurt, than it is better if you don't say anything. The circumstances back then were very different that they are know. They had higher standards and more to loose than us. But I also see the other side. If people are doing bad things on their free will and are helping others accomplish that, than they are just as guilty as the criminal itself.
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I believe that people who associate with criminals are just as guilty as the criminals. The person who associates with the criminal has the opportunity to stop the crimial from doing what they plan to do. By not stopping them the criminal can do as they please and they commit even more crimes. Also by not stopping the criminal they are aiding in the crime because they are allowing the crime to happen.
ReplyDeleteI see what you are saying, but there is a bit of a gap in what you are saying. When someone is associating themselves with an association like the Nazis, they aren't necessarily aware of everything that they are doing. They may blindly be supporting the side that they would be fighting if they knew the entire story.
DeleteI agree that people that are associate with criminals are just as guilty because they knew want they did. They know thing that should be brought up.
DeleteI think that people that associate with the criminals are not as guilty as the criminal, depending on what they do, but are guilty. If someone tells there friend to do something do help steal something from someone, then they are in trouble even if they don't personally steal it. This is because they helped them. If the person doesn't know that they are helping the other person commit a crime, then they shouldn't get in trouble if they didn't know because it wasn't on purpose. For this reason, the SS officers are just as guilty as the main leaders.
ReplyDeleteI think that it depends. If you just know someone who has committed a crime, but did not know about the crime then you are not guilty. However, if you have a friend who told you that they were going to commit a crime and you did nothing about, then you are just as guilty. You did nothing to stop this person and people can lose their life because you did not stand up to this person and tell them to stop.
ReplyDeleteI think that a person who associates with a criminal is almost always as guilty as the criminal themselves. This being because they are helping the criminal and committing terrible deeds just like the one they are assisting. The only situation in which a person in this situation would not be so guilty is if they were forced upon it. Especially if their life or their families lives are at stake.
ReplyDeletePeople who associate themselves with criminals are not as guilty. They are still guilty, just not as guilty as the people actually commiting the crime. If you are a part of something bad, even if you aren't the person who started it, you are still doing something bad. In the case of Night, the SS officers are taking part of hurting the Jews, but they are not who made up the idea. They are not the criminal, but they are still guilty because they are contributing to the overall result of the crime. They are helping the criminal, but the criminal is still the most guilty. Overall, people who associate themselves with criminals and help in some way, even if they are not the crimial themself, are still guilty.
ReplyDeleteI believe that what you have mentioned, in the sense that you are still guilty having an association with a crime but possibly not as much as the offender, is somewhat the truth. Yet, how could you tell which person did the must morally wrong action? The SS soldiers are the ones who scorch, shoot, and commit genocide but, you basically convey that Adolf Hitler (for example) is still the one trapped under the most guilt. In my opinion, the amount of guilt is opposite. The SS soldiers should have the most guilt even though they aren't the one who orchestrated the mass killings.
DeleteI disagree because they knew they had done bad thing but never told the police. It would make them just as guilty for not telling what they have done.
DeleteI think the SS officers are just as guilty as the criminals. If the SS officers stand by and watch the acts then they are guilty because it was in their hands to stop it and they did not. If someone knows something bad is going to happen and they don't say something then you are still guilty for the action that happened. I definitely think that the SS officers are guilty.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the people who associate with criminals are about just as guilty. If a person helps the criminal get away with a crime I think they are just as guilty. Is somebody tells you that they are going to steal or kill someone or something then you are just as guilty. If you know something then you need to tell someone and speck up. Another example is that if somebody is planning a terrorist attack and they tell you, of course you need to speak up.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your point about keeping it a secret. If someone tells you they are planning someone, you should definitely tell them or you are just as guilty.
DeletePeople who are associated with criminals are not responsible for a crime commited by one of their friends/family members. However, if you know about an upcoming crime, and if you don't say something, you are just as responsible. You could have either warned somebody, or told an official about it. That crime could ruin your reputation and/or another person's reputation too.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, if you know the person that committed the crime, you should warn or tell someone. I also agree with you on how people who are associated with criminals are not guilty, they probably had no idea. Although if they knew about that person being a criminal then they would be guilty as well, for not telling anyone.
DeleteI agree, people who are friends/family with people who commit crimes are not responsible for the crime. I also agree what if you know about the upcoming crime but you don't do anything about it you are as responsible as the person who commits it.
DeleteI think that those who associate themselves with criminals are just as guilty. The reason for this is that they know that person and what things they are doing. This is actually a crime on its own because it is against the law to withhold information from the authorities. Though the only time I think a person is not guilty for knowing about a crime that is going to happen is if telling others puts their life or others lives in danger.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with you because the person might not know what they are doing. And f they did they should not receive as much punishment as the person who actually committed the crime.
DeleteI agree with you because in the book some of the Jews did not know what was coming to them, but the Hungarian Police did. I am not saying the police force had to tell what was coming, but it would have been considerable to protect their countries' people by warning them with the truth.
DeleteI think that the people that are associated with the crime are most of the time just as guilty as the actual criminals. The person is setting up and helping the criminal which is almost worse than committing the crime. Setting people up and covering their tracks is still horrible and the people should be punished equally. If you know something and don't say it to the police, that is a crime and should not be tolerated.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with you. You should think about both people and think about there well being.
DeleteI say that people who associate with criminals are not necessarily just as guilty. In the book the SS soldiers are basically just as guilty because they did not have to listen to the government. It is better to be true to yourself them act like a fake. Same goes for believing what you believe. See if someone committed a crime in secret and someone gets in trouble for being blamed for something they did not know was even going on, then no they are not guilty at all. In Conclusion it all is based on the situation.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you because their soldiers didn't have to listen to the government. Also, not everyone that associates with criminals is guilty.
DeleteI agree with you that most of the time you could not even know your helping a criminal. So if your technically associated with the criminal, it doesn't mean your guilty.
DeleteI agree with you because the person who was associated in the crime should receive some punishment. However, that person should not receive as much punishment as the person who actually committed the crime.
DeleteI agree with you, the soldiers didn't have to listen to the government, it was their choice. I also agree that it's all based off the situation. It depends on how much the associate knew.
DeletePeople who associate with the criminals are just as guilty as those who commit the crime. I think this way because the people who associate with the criminals are sometimes what makes the crime possible. In some cases however the criminal can trick other people into helping him, which is basically what Adolf Hitler did. He tricked everyone into thinking Jews were bad people, and then told them to kill all the Jews. Therefore I believe that the people who helps the criminal with the crime should if caught all go to jail.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you. The criminals should also have their own consequences, depending on the situation.
DeleteI completely with you Luke, people who associate with the people who commit the crime are basically supporting the doing of the crime. All the people who helped the SS or the Nazis be should get have some sort of punishment ,whether it jail for life or capital punishment because they were helping a group that killed millions of people.
DeleteI agree with you because most times if there were no associates there would have been no crime. The associates are a vital part of the crime, and if they chose to help commit the crime they are just as guilty.
DeleteI do think that the person is guilty because in the book the criminals are forcing them to do this to people just as much as the people are being forced by them. Or it is not the person who is associated with them's fault. If they knew something and were helping them than maybe yes they can be just a guilty. If the associate is not "in" on anything the criminal is doing, they are not guilty. The bystander should not be guilty in that case, it also is not fair.
ReplyDeleteI have to disagree with you because the criminal is involved in the crime, so that means a criminal is getting away for helping another criminal create a crime. I believe they should all have their own consequences according to what crime they did.
DeleteI agree with your situation in the book but this isn't the case all the time. You could help commit the crime but if you didn't know that the crime would happen than the person isn't guilty.
DeleteI don't think ALL people who associate with criminals are just as guilty because the person who associates with them could be anyone. If a child commits a crime that doesn't mean the parent is just as guilty. If a person is told to do something by a criminal it's their decision whether or not to do it. Just like how Hitler told everyone how to treat Jewish people that didn't mean they had to. Some consequences may be enforced but in the end it's your decision. Only you can control your body.
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I agree with you. The people do have a choice to commit a crime. In Hitler's situation people had to follow him or be killed but it is still someones own choice.
DeleteElois, I agree partially with your response. I think that if a child has committed a crime, there could be a chance that he/she had great parents, and the parents should not be blamed for it. However, consider that Hitler possibly threatened his followers with death if they did not follow him.
DeleteI agree that not all people who associate with criminals are guilty. I also agree that everyone has control of themselves. Everyone is their own master.
DeleteI think that if someone helps a criminal commit a crime, they are just as guilty of the crime as the criminal is, for the most part. For example, if one of the employees of a bank unlocks the safe for a robber under their own free will, they are just as guilty of the robber taking the money. There might be some circumstances where this may be hard to determine. For example, if a criminal told the employee to open up the safe, and had a gun against his head, I don't think that the person being threatened is guilty for the crime. Any person would value their life over helping a criminal, I would think.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your perspective, and I feel that if a person were to help a criminal commit a crime they would be equally guilty. I can also understand your example of how a person in some cases should not be held accountable.-Corbett Prep
DeleteI disagree with you. I believe that you should think about if they had made a positive or negative affects on the person. - Corbett Prep
DeleteI do not think so. Today, the government punishes those that do associate with criminals, so some may think that the answer is yes. Morally, they are not as guilty as the criminal. They haven't done any wrongdoings because they wanted too. If they did cause havoc then it was probably because they felt threatened or terrified of the consequences to come.
ReplyDeleteI think that people who help out the criminals in a crime are just as guilty as the people who actually committed the crime. Giving support for a crime is like giving fuel to a forest fire. If you give fuel to that fire, you are just as responsible for the damage along with the fire. If you support a criminal's crime, than you are giving fuel to it, making you just as responsible for the crime. However, if the person is being associated with the criminal as a victim, that person isn't responsible as the criminal for the crime.
ReplyDeleteI agree that if you fully support the act of crime, you are guilty. I agree with the other statement that the victim would not be guilty. But I think that if you are not fully supportive or not fully participating, you are not as guilty as the one doing the crime.
DeleteI don't think people who associate with criminals are always as guilty as those who commit the crime. In Night the people who enforce Hitlers word are just as guilty as he is. They're the ones who are taring families apart, but some could argue that they are the criminals. In this situation they are just as guilty as he is. There are other situations where the people who associate with criminals could have a good or morally right reason to do so. If you associate with criminals in order to learn more about them, so later you can turn them in, that's a situation in which you shouldn't be or feel guilty. It always depends.
ReplyDeleteI think that someone who associated with the person who committed the crime, is as guilty as the person who wanted to commit the crime in the first place. If the person got themselves involved in the crime, they should know what they are getting into. The person who associated with the person committing the crime should also be responsible for it because even though it may not have been their plan, they still did the crime.
ReplyDeleteI truly believe that people who have a correlation with a certain crime be it massive or minute, are just as guilty as the main criminal. For you have made the moral decision to sell, possibly, your life to a indirect crime. In short terms, if you are helping a criminal, you are helping a crime.
ReplyDeleteBlake, these are great points, and I completely agree with all of them. I think that you could still delve deeper by providing an example from the book like how the Nazis helped Hitler. Then you could relate that topic to your opinion like how the Nazis are viewed in the same light as Hitler himself these days.
DeleteYes because you can tell your friends to rob the bank. You both can be in trouble. Your friends can be nice and say that you just wanted to rob the bank to just get a lot of money. You can also go to jail if you do something really bad. Your friends can tell there parents if they are doing something bad.
ReplyDeleteI think it depends on the situation, but I think that most people that help criminals are just as guilty as the criminal themselves. For example, if a co-worker works with a criminal, that doesn't incriminate them too. I also think that there are scenarios where that individual is guilty. Like if someone was friends with a criminal, and they were in on their crimes, they could be considered guilty.
ReplyDeleteI believe that they would be somewhat guilty due to the fact that they helped or associated with the people who committed the crime. It could also depend on what they did to associate with the criminals. Say someone decides to rob a gas station and the associate provides the car, that would make them guilty of assisting the robbery. But even though helping the criminal is bad, doing the crime is even worse.
ReplyDeleteI agree that a person is somewhat guilty for committing a crime if they are an accomplice, however, like in your example, there is a possibility that the person did not know that the robber was going to rob a gas station with his car. I don't think that lending the car without knowledge would that make the person not guilty.
DeleteI don't think people that associate with criminals are guilty because they probably didn't know that their friends were criminals or didn't want to help them. If they did know about the criminal, then he could be in trouble for not telling the police. However if he did, and he helped his friend with the crime, then they are guilty and they should both be punished.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. I think that it is easy to think the best of people, especially those who are close to you. It can be difficult to see what the criminal is actually doing.
DeleteI believe if someone helps a criminal commit a crime that they should have consequences. However the consequences would not as bad as the main criminal. It all depends on the moment and what occurred in that situation. If a criminal was involved, I believe that it depends on what the criminal did, and they should get punished for their own crime they did.
ReplyDeletePeople that associate themselves with criminals are just as guilty as the criminal. If your best friend came up to you and said, “Hey, let’s rob the local Burger King or McDonalds”, you are plotting a crime, which makes you just as guilty as the person committing the crime. Just like in the book, The Nazis are just as guilty as Hitler was because they agreed with mass genocide and allowed the killings to happen.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion people who associate themselves with criminals are charged with varying levels of guilt based upon how associated they were. For an example, if a friend of a criminal allows the criminal to use a car for an escape vehicle, I feel that they would be held guilty as well. On the other hand, if a friend of a criminal simply is a friend that doesn't know about the crimes that their friend is committing, then they should not be held guilty.
ReplyDeleteI think that if someone is associated with a criminal, they shouldn't be prosecuted as fully as the criminal. I still think that they should have to pay a fine, or do hours for the community. If your friend says " I'm going to rob a 7 Eleven, you in?" and you say no, but you don't report them, then you should be guilty because you are technically helping the robber. If you say no and turn them in, then I think that you shouldn't be charged as guilty. Overall I think it just boils down to if you helped them, or for you to be judged on how much you were involved.
ReplyDeletePeople that talk to criminals are not guilty because. Maybe they didn't know that the person that they were talking to was a criminal. Unless you are helping that person commit the crime or just helping that person by planning out what he will go do then yes I do think that he is as guilty as the criminal. If the criminal commits a murder and you help clean it up or cover it up then yes you are just as guilty.
ReplyDeletePeople who associate themselves with criminals are not as guilty as those who actually committed the crime. Just because you are friends or work with the criminal doesn't make you a criminal as well. But if you helped or agreed with the crime that the criminal committed then you should be considered guilty. You should suffer some type of consequence. In the book Night, the Nazis were just as bad as Hitler. They are just as guilty and should be given consequences. They helped the main criminal commit the crime.
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I think that it depends on what the criminal did and if the person was apart of the crime. If the person is just friends with the criminal but had nothing to do with the crime, I don't think the friend would be guilty. But in the book Night, the Nazis are friends with Hitler (he would be the criminal). I think the Nazis should be punished for what they did because they did what the criminal wanted them to do.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, Ava. When you said what kind of crime it is, it was similar to my post so I agree with you there.
DeleteI also think that the Nazis should be punished for what they did. It was their own choice if they killed others or not.
DeleteI believe that this also depends on the situation. Being associated with a criminal can be the person's own decision. If the person chooses to work with the criminal, than yes, it is their choice and they are just as guilty. The Nazis chose to side with Hitler. That is their own decision. There are other situations where the person is forced into committing the wrongdoings. These people do not morally want to commit the crime, but they still help commit the crime because it might be the safest option.
ReplyDeleteI feel that being associated with a criminal would not always incriminate you. For an example, in Night, there was a Hungarian policeman knocking on the Wiesels' boarded up window. They had said that they knew the policeman, and that he would help them escape. By the time they got to the window he was gone. In this situation I would say that the Wiesels would not be guilty of anything because they never actually helped the policeman to hurt others in any way. There are other situations that have not been covered in the book yet, where a person may be an instrumental part of a criminal's plan, and in this situation the person would most certainly be considered guilty.
ReplyDeleteIf a person helps the criminal make the crime or plan one then he should be as guilty. If you want to go rob a bank or a store or anything and someone helps you rob it or just plan it out he's a criminal to because he's helping you make the crime. I think that if you are involved with anything like that then you are just as guilty.
ReplyDeleteI believe that if you are indirectly associated with a crime you have helped commit it. While the Hungarian police where spreading the roomer, Hungarian police men let them out that was a form of accessory to a crime. He knocked on the Wiesel's window and alarmed them to either hide or escape from the Nazi's. When they made their decision he was gone. Therefore, you don't have to kill someone to be an accessory to murder.
ReplyDeletePeople who associate and support criminals are just as guilty as the criminals. If your friend held up a gas station and told you and you supported them then they would think that they have the support of their friends and continue to do it. If someone within the Nazi force confronted Hitler about the mass killings and forced labour, than he may have considered stopping. But people just ignored it and supported the wrongs being done, making them just as guilty as the people committing the crimes.
ReplyDeletecondoning something is the same thing as doing it, in my opinion. if you sit and watch something happen, nothing will change. When action is taken it can cause a giant adjustment in what is taking place. The Nazis were associated with Hitler's evil plot. They were the people who did his dirty work. The Nazis could have revolted and made a difference, but instead they supported the nasty things that took place. They would do things like befriend people just to cause them pain and suffering. They had a choice, and they chose to be a part of Hitler's twisted plan.
ReplyDeletePeople who associate and support criminals are just as guilty as the criminals. If your friend held up a gas station and told you and you supported them then they would think that they have the support of their friends and continue to do it. If someone within the Nazi force confronted Hitler about the mass killings and forced labour, than he may have considered stopping. But people just ignored it and supported the wrongs being done, making them just as guilty as the people committing the crimes.
ReplyDeleteI think that the people who associate with criminals are just as guilty as the people who commit the crime. On the other hand if someone is caught on a camera being in that area not doing anything they no they are not guilty. Like in the book the Nazis are just as guilty as Hitler because they agreed to his plan. Moshe is not guilty even though he was in the area where the Nazis killed multiple people in the trench, but he is not guilty because he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and did nothing wrong.
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I believe that it is only bad to associate with a criminal if they have a negative effect on your actions. If you associate with criminals but you have the power to not let their bad ideas influence your actions then I think it is okay. It all depends on how much control you have over your actions and if you decide to have a positive influence or negative influence. Like in the story the inspector of the Hungarian Police knocked on their window to warn them of danger. pg.14
ReplyDeleteI dont think people that associate with criminals are as bad as the people who do the crime. If anything, they are worse. If a person worked with a criminal to plan out a crime but didn't commit it, they are even worse than the person who did. They got someone else to get punished for committing a crime that they planned out. In a way, this is worse because they got someone else to do their dirty work for them.
ReplyDeleteWhen you throw your lot in with the wrong people you aren’t necessarily as bad as they are. You could think that you support everything that they are doing, so you join their side. The problem is that you don’t necessarily know everything that they plan to do. I’m sure that the Germans didn’t tell the police forces and the local governments everything that they planned to do, and they were all happy to do as they were told. Though they may have sided with the wrong people, they aren’t necessarily as bad as those who were in charge.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree. The ones associated with the criminals sometimes have little knowledge of what's going on and jump on board when they hear something they agree with.
DeleteIt actually depends on the level of involvement that person has with the criminal and their involvement with the crime. If the person is just watching the crime being committed, than they have little to no guilt on their shoulders. However, if the associate played a major role in the crime, they would be as guilty as the criminal. There is no way to determine the guilt of a criminal’s associate’s guilt without knowing how much they were involved.
ReplyDeleteI believe even if you are the one who didn't commit the crime and still helped the criminals, you should be put in jail. Even thought you didn't commit the crime you still knew about it, you probably also knew it was the wrong thing to do but you were already caught up in it and couldn't back out.
ReplyDeleteI believe even if you are the one who didn't commit the crime and still helped the criminals, you should be put in jail. Even thought you didn't commit the crime you still knew about it, you probably also knew it was the wrong thing to do but you were already caught up in it and couldn't back out.
ReplyDeleteI don’t think that people that are associated with someone who commit a crime are guilty because they might not have anything to do with it. In the book, it wasn’t fair that they would take all of the Jews from the town because they were innocent. It is the same concept behind it. You can’t choose not to be associated with someone because you might have no idea that they are going to commit a crime. They didn’t choose to be Jewish; they were born into a Jewish family.
ReplyDeleteI think if you have an association with a criminal, it does not make you guilty. I believe if the person you are associating with makes a positive impact on you, than you shouldn't be blamed as guilty. If the person has negative affects on you than you should leave this person. I believe the Nazis, had an negative affect with Hitler. They knew in the back of there minds it was wrong to do but they wanted to follow their leader. This was shown through the beginning of the book.
ReplyDeleteI think that the people that associate with criminals are not as guilty as the ones that committed the crime. I think that as long as the person associating with the criminal isn't doing anything wrong then they're not guilty. Usually, people that associate with end up doing bad things because the criminal corrupts them into doing things that they don't want to. For example, in the book an inspector of the Hungarian police that was friends with Elie's father that came during the night to tell them that he'll come back to report if there's any danger. (page 14)
ReplyDeleteI do believe that someone that was associated with the criminal is as guilty as the criminal. Most times, if the criminal needs an associate that means that they could not have done the crime by themselves, so if the associate didn't help in the first place, then the crime may not have been committed. Other times it depends on what crime was committed and how the associate helped. In Night, I would consider the Hungarian Police an associate that is as guilty as the Nazis because it would have very hard for the Nazis to take over all those countries by themselves.
ReplyDeleteI dont think people that associate with criminals are as bad as the people who do the crime. If anything, they are worse. If a person worked with a criminal to plan out a crime but didn't commit it, they are even worse than the person who did. They got someone else to get punished for committing a crime that they planned out. In a way, this is worse because they got someone else to do their dirty work for them. In the case of Germany, the guard Nazis that were associated with Hitler were just as guilty as Hitler himself.
ReplyDeleteThe person who associates with a criminal is just as guilty as a criminal. They are the ones who get themselves involved in the situation when they don't have to. If an innocent person is somehow threatened to be involved or used in a criminals situation, it would be a different story. In that case, the criminal would be more guilty than the innocent person. In the book "Night," the Nazis decide to work under Hitler's orders. They know exactly what they are doing, and they know they can get out of the situation whenever they want. The Nazis choose to get involved in the wrong things, therefore I would think they should be guilty.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, both the people associated with the criminal and the actual criminal are equally guilty. Although the severity of crimes can vary, if you are associated with a crime then you had a part in the entire crime itself, making the crime much worse than if it were just to be the criminal committing it. The Nazis were associated with Hitler and committed some of his crimes for him, leaving them just as guilty as Hitler himself because they did his work for him. Guilt by association has so far been shown throughout this book because the Nazis are doing all of Hitlers work for him, such as putting many Jews in a cramped train without water and food.
ReplyDeleteI believe even if you are the one who didn't commit the crime and still helped the criminals, you should be put in jail. Even though you didn't commit the crime you still knew about it, you probably also knew it was the wrong thing to do but you were already caught up in it and couldn't back out. In the book, Night, the Germans agreed to Hitler's plan.
ReplyDeleteI don’t think that people that are associated with someone who commit a crime are guilty because they might not have anything to do with it. In the book, it wasn’t fair that they would take all of the Jews from the town because they were innocent. It is the same concept behind it. You can’t choose not to be associated with someone because you might have no idea that they are going to commit a crime. They didn’t choose to be Jewish; they were born into a Jewish family.
ReplyDeleteI think people who do associate with criminals aren't as guilty as the criminal because they don't know that they helping the criminal get away with whatever crime they are committing. The person who was assoicated with the criminal could have been easily tricked in to doing the "dirty deed" for the criminal. For example, during Night the German soldiers tricked the Jewish people into thinking they were good so that they would listen. Only if they choose to take part in the crime and know what they are doing should be just as guilty as the criminal.
ReplyDeleteI agree with what you are saying about how people may be tricked into doing something illegal when they didn't know. Also keep in mind that sometimes people are associated with criminals and know what is going on, and know it is illegal. This is a very good view on the question and a great argument, but keep in mind that people may understand what was going on.
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I believe that it is not as bad to associate with them than to do the crime but it is still bad, If your friend did the crime and you hang out with them you its better but you should tell the police if it is bad. In this case If you are a Nazi I think you are just as guilty as a person who killed other people because you agree with them being able to do that, they are happy to do the crimes and agree with them. On pg 17 and18 The Hungarian Police said all Jews outside , move you lazy good for nothings they ordered them to run with all there belongings in the hot sun so they are associated with the nazis and could be just as guilty as them.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, yes because I think that if you know what someone is doing, than you should take the blame if you don't try and stop them. If you associate with them, then I feel that you are implying that you approve of what they are doing. In the book some people know what the Nazi's are doing and don't stop them. To me this shows that they are as guilty.
ReplyDeleteWhat if you think of this question from the perspective of moral values. The associated person really has no intention of carrying out wrongdoings or causing chaos.
DeleteI do not really agree with you. If the person already committed the crime, you can not stop them, and you did not commit the crime. If you did not try to stop them, you should not take blame, what have you done wrong?
DeleteI agree and disagree with your statement Lorenzo. I agree with what you said that if you are associating with them, then you are implying with them and you should take a blame. I do not agree with what you said on if you know what the person is doing and you don't stop them, then you should take the blame. What if you are being forced to do a bad deed. Also if you know what is going on, it does not mean that you did a bad thing.
DeleteLorenzo I too agree that if someone knows what they are doing is wrong then they should be considered guilty. Even if they try not to stop the wrong very well stated paragraph on the topic with so many different views.
DeleteGabriella I agree with you about the difficult situations a person might be put in I think it is a very possible situation someone may be placed in. But I disagree with what you said about the parent totally going to rob a bank. I feel like that parent should not rob a bank and try to go get help with authorities because if she didn't then that person would be guilty with a crime as well. I get were you are coming from very well written paragraph taken from a different perspective.
DeleteI believe that people who are guilty of this crime should be charged but the people who are hanging out with the criminal who are considered free are not just as bad as the criminal who is charged.
ReplyDeleteHaarmington, I agree with parts of your statement. I agree that the person who is guilty of the crime should be charged. I do not think that if you are just hanging out with person that you should not be charged. The person could have persuaded the criminal from not doing what they did.
DeleteI do think that that is a great point because if it's life threatening then it needs to be addressed. I would have to disagree though because in some cases its really not your business. If your not familiar with the situation, without knowing you could be making it worse.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with everything that is said in your post. Ordinary people may be associated with criminals, but just not know it. In Night, the Wiesels are associated with a Hungarian policeman who was supposedly going to help them escape. Do you think that the Wiesels should be incriminated because of their association with a person that they knew was a criminal?
ReplyDeleteI believe your point is great. Though, how come if these soldiers aren't as horrific as Hitler, they don't show a sliver of remorse, sympathy, or blunt realization in their barbaric acts? I understand your meaning of the SS officers, but the facade they cower behind is elusive in the book's accounts.
ReplyDeleteYou are totally right! Knowing about 9/11 is a great example of being guilty for not speaking up when knowing about an attack.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you because you made great points about telling the police. But I think that if someone is friends with the criminal but doesn't know hat they are a criminal, the friend isn't guilty.
ReplyDeleteNo, people who associate with criminals are not always as guilty as the criminals are. Sometimes we are put in difficult situations where we are forced to complete difficult tasks. An example would be if a person was holding your daughter hostage and demanded you rob a bank. The father/ mother would of course complete the task at hand.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, if anybody who is associating with a criminal in a crime does something bad, I believe they should also have consequences. Maybe not as bad consequences if they didn't create a crime as bad as the other criminal did.
ReplyDeleteI do not think that just because you hang out with some one who has committed crime means that you committed the crime. If you helped them, then yes, you are guilty, but would if you did not help them? Are you still guilty?
ReplyDeleteRachel, I agree and disagree with you. I think that you are right that sometimes people who associate themselves with criminals are just as guilty as the criminal. However, this would only be true if the person knew that the criminal was going to commit a crime.
ReplyDeleteTrent, I agree with you. I think that you are right that if your friend asks you to commit a crime, then you are just as guilty as them. While I agree with your post, what if your friend asked you to do something that you did not know was illegal and you did it. Would you still be committing a crime?
ReplyDeleteIf you are involved in the crime than I believe that you are guilty. If you knew that a crime was going to happen and you helped it happen than you are guilty. If you don't know what is going to happen than I think the opposite. If you were to tell somebody where something is and they stole it than it isn't your fault. The only way it would be your fault is if you knew the person was going to be committing a crime and you continue to help them.
ReplyDeleteI agree because if you know a crime is going to happen you should try to stop it . But if you don't try to stop it then its just like being the one who actually did it, you're just as guilty.
DeleteAnyone who knows something and does not confess is just as guilty as a person committing the crime. One scenario is if someone tells you that they are going to rob a store and you find out that they went to jail it is not okay to not tell anyone. Another scenario is if your friend shot a house and the police was there you would still go to jail because you could have done anything to stop the criminal but you didn’t. It is never okay for someone not to tell on a person for crime they did. Crimes are crimes no matter if they are big or small.
ReplyDeleteI do not agree that if you are associated with a criminal it is the same as committing the crime. I think that they could of did something to prevent it but they are not committing the crime. What if they are put in a bad position where they can't escape and have to help them?
ReplyDeleteI believe that if you are involved in a crime you could be guilty and not guilty. You can be guilty if you want to be involved in the crime and do bad deeds when asked. For example, if you were to rob a bank and were told to help, and you really wanted to, then you are guilty. You can also can be not guilty. This is because a criminal can force you to do something. For example, if a criminal says "Help me rob a bank or you will die" then you are being forced to do so. You have to do the crime, but you should not be guilty for doing so.
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